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i remember when george bush ii ran. kerry was excellent, but there was a core in bush, despite the fact he was losing the debates, that sort of connected with people. so even though we felt, i was there the first kerry/bush debate, we felt that he was slaughtered by kerry. but you didn't leave there disliking him. the problem with romney is, his likability. and if he walks out tonight, not only losing, but still not likable, it's over with. >> i just want to talk about what steve said. i think we know who president obama is. and i think there were some real impactful moments in the last time president obama was in this position. in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you k
i remember when george bush ii ran. kerry was excellent, but there was a core in bush, despite the fact he was losing the debates, that sort of connected with people. so even though we felt, i was there the first kerry/bush debate, we felt that he was slaughtered by kerry. but you didn't leave there disliking him. the problem with romney is, his likability. and if he walks out tonight, not only losing, but still not likable, it's over with. >> i just want to talk about what steve said. i...
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lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%, in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to gem themselves to this point, whether it's mr. romney's tax returns or lack there of or getting rich by laying off fact workers or that videotape that said half the country is lady bums and he doesn't care about them? in this reincarnation, thurston is mean. whaef it is that has done that is just killing him in the polls,every state. if the romney campaign does nothing else, they must, must, must make sure that nobody anywhere near mitt romney does that rich guy can't relate to people like me thing again. here's the romney campaign last night. >> both mitt and i have summer places up in new hampshire on lake winnipesaukee. a few summers ago was taking my
lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%, in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to gem themselves to this point, whether it's mr. romney's tax returns or lack...
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bush to barack obama." the co-author of the end game michael gordon joins me now. congratulations. this is an epic piece of work. u.n. and general trainer have been digging through it from both sides on the ground in iraq and here in washington and elsewhere. but, let's talk about what you think is the real reason for this rise in both sectarian attacks and attacks against security forces. is this iranian influence? >> i think it's more complicated than that. i think that, you know, the worst has not happened in iraq. we don't have a civil war. the country hasn't collapsed for the doom sayers who thought the place was going to go up in flames, that hasn't occurred. >> john mccain and others even today on "morning joe" was saying it's all blowing apart. >> well it's not all blowing apart. but what we -- but there are a lot of reasons for concern. without an american military footprint on the ground, even a small one of a few thousand troops, the iraqi commandos would become less capable of fighting al qaeda
bush to barack obama." the co-author of the end game michael gordon joins me now. congratulations. this is an epic piece of work. u.n. and general trainer have been digging through it from both sides on the ground in iraq and here in washington and elsewhere. but, let's talk about what you think is the real reason for this rise in both sectarian attacks and attacks against security forces. is this iranian influence? >> i think it's more complicated than that. i think that, you know,...
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lower, even, than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think that mitt romney cares about the needs and problems of people like them. some of mr. romney's numbers are just shockingly bad. i mean double check. shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%. in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to get themselves to this point, whether it's mr. romney's tax returns, or the lack thereof, or getting rich by laying off factory workers or the tape where he says half the country is a bunch of lazy bums and victims who depend on the government and he doesn't care about them. whatever it is that turned their candidate into the 2012 reincarnation of thurston howell except in this reincarnation thurston is mean, whatever it is that has done that it's just killing him in the polls in every state. if the romney campaign does nothing else they must, must, must make sure that nobody any
lower, even, than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think that mitt romney cares about the needs and problems of people like them. some of mr. romney's numbers are just shockingly bad. i mean double check. shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%. in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to...
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one of the models that president obama has, president george h.w. bush, president bush senior. his rolodex and his friendships made an enormous difference in the quality of his presidency on foreign policy. you know, when saddam went into kuwait and the united states was able to round up all those friends, a lot of that had to do with the personal relationships that george bush senior had established over time, and people give you the benefit of the doubt when there's skepticism. look at the distrust that exists between netanyahu and president obama on that very issue alone. we could have a conflict with iran that sort of comes through just the two people not having a very good personal relationship and maybe misreading each other. i think these things are very, very important in international diplomacy, especially in the middle east. >> critics of governor romney say look, he's done his share of light interviews but it's a different, i mean, the standard for somebody campaigning who is not in public office and somebody who is president of the united states is very different. >
one of the models that president obama has, president george h.w. bush, president bush senior. his rolodex and his friendships made an enormous difference in the quality of his presidency on foreign policy. you know, when saddam went into kuwait and the united states was able to round up all those friends, a lot of that had to do with the personal relationships that george bush senior had established over time, and people give you the benefit of the doubt when there's skepticism. look at the...
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it was the result, i believe, and the president believes, of failed policies of george bush. that's what he walked into. very different world than anything in the campaign. here's what he did. he walked into office. we were shedding 750,000 jobs a month. you know all this. >> sean: wait a minute. >> let me finish. now we've created 5 million jobs over four years. >> sean: that's not true. that's not true, sir. sir, there are fewer americans working than when he took office. that is a fact. you get it right from the bureau of labor and statistics. here's the point, when he ran in 2008 he said it's the worst economy since the great depression. he told it was bad. he said and projected that if we pass a stimulus -- he's already in office now -- that by now he would have created 8.7 million jobs. but again, fewer americans working than when he took office. and he gave us $6 trillion in debt. why should we believe him? why won't you just admit these are simple basic truths? seems like the obama campaign can't face this reality. >> no, i think we face the reality. we were losing 75
it was the result, i believe, and the president believes, of failed policies of george bush. that's what he walked into. very different world than anything in the campaign. here's what he did. he walked into office. we were shedding 750,000 jobs a month. you know all this. >> sean: wait a minute. >> let me finish. now we've created 5 million jobs over four years. >> sean: that's not true. that's not true, sir. sir, there are fewer americans working than when he took office....
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. >> in 1988, george bush managed a huge swing. dukakis was leading after the democratic convention but lost to bush. in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are varying in the sampling and methodology so it's hard to make the case when they point in one direction, they're all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. >> another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> this isn't over. it can move back and forth three and four times between now and november 6. if i'm romney you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past ten where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average was 5%. in some cases a debate moved the need
. >> in 1988, george bush managed a huge swing. dukakis was leading after the democratic convention but lost to bush. in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are...
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. >> i can tell how they were under george herbert walker bush. i doubt they strayed very much at least in the way they would like them to happen, but obviously each president does it his own way. every day at about the same time, i think it was around 8:15 in the morning, between 8:00 and 8:15 in the morning, the briefer would come in. the president would be given half a dozen, maybe a dozen pages. he would spend five or 10 minutes going through it. then we would engage the briefer, whatever experts they brought, to answer specific questions about the issues that were outlined -- and the word is outlined -- in that document there. the president would go through and ask questions. in the bush white house, it was the president, the chief of staff, myself, the national security advisor, and the vice president. and that's the process that we had. and that's the most important half hour of the day for the president to find out what's going on around the world beyond the headlines that one might read in the newspaper. and it is in fact that intelligenc
. >> i can tell how they were under george herbert walker bush. i doubt they strayed very much at least in the way they would like them to happen, but obviously each president does it his own way. every day at about the same time, i think it was around 8:15 in the morning, between 8:00 and 8:15 in the morning, the briefer would come in. the president would be given half a dozen, maybe a dozen pages. he would spend five or 10 minutes going through it. then we would engage the briefer,...
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george w. bush mia right now on the campaign trail. is it because he doesn't want to campaign for mitt romney or mitt romney doesn't want bush campaigning for him? >> well, i have to assume it's because the former president bush does not want to. because there are things he could very usefully do. he remains a controversial figure. a lot of americans blame him for the economic crisis. so it would be most likely unwise to have him on a big stage doing big rallies. but he could be a powerful fundraiser. one of the challenges that mitt romney has had is he's spending a lot of time still raising money in person. the very biggest donors want to see their candidate. but they would be justhappy or almost as happy with the former president as they would be with a possible future president. if george bush were doing those events, that would be a great load off mitt romney's shoulders. >> what do you think, donna, on this? you're a close observer. i want to point out, biden's favorability 42%, not 43%. there's the right number right there. why a
george w. bush mia right now on the campaign trail. is it because he doesn't want to campaign for mitt romney or mitt romney doesn't want bush campaigning for him? >> well, i have to assume it's because the former president bush does not want to. because there are things he could very usefully do. he remains a controversial figure. a lot of americans blame him for the economic crisis. so it would be most likely unwise to have him on a big stage doing big rallies. but he could be a...
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george h.w. bush had good growth. he lost the election because bill clinton and ross perot convinced people the economy was struggling. this race this year looks a little bit like 2004. george w. bush had very struggling numbers. not so strong, decent third quarter, decent third quarter helped president bush heading into his re-election campaign. look how weak growth has been in this election year in the obama presidency? well below even what it was in 2004 for george w. bush and the second quarter drops more. very anemic growth. we don't know the third quarter numbers. we'll get those before the election. president obama we know he's trying to do something no one's done with fdr, win with the unemployment rate above 7.2%. look at gdp numbers to win, it would be a bit of history. >> certainly would be. john, thanks very much. we're going to have much more coverage, full coverage of tonight's debate president obama and governor romney face-to-face as american voters weigh their choice. the first presidential debate tak
george h.w. bush had good growth. he lost the election because bill clinton and ross perot convinced people the economy was struggling. this race this year looks a little bit like 2004. george w. bush had very struggling numbers. not so strong, decent third quarter, decent third quarter helped president bush heading into his re-election campaign. look how weak growth has been in this election year in the obama presidency? well below even what it was in 2004 for george w. bush and the second...
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you played -- you helped al gore in the bush. you played george w. bush. was he sighing in the rehearsals like he was on stage? was he breathing like that? that got on the nerves of a lot of folks. >> i did not notice any irregular breathing patterns of the vice president. i thought it was cheap that was analyzed and overanalyzed. >> got him a lot of publicity in the days that followed. >> what you could see in the press he was honestly appalled to be standing on stage with george w. bush. he thought bush was completely unworthy and had no business running for president and you could tell. he would roll his eyes. you could see that. i was playing bush. this is a worry for president obama. he debated john mccain who is an american hero. and senator obama served with senator mccain. even though he didn't agree barack obama had a very high degree of respect for john mccain looking across that stage. i fear -- he lacks that looking at romney. might not only he as he underestimate governor romney but may show -- this is a huge ri risk, he may show some of that
you played -- you helped al gore in the bush. you played george w. bush. was he sighing in the rehearsals like he was on stage? was he breathing like that? that got on the nerves of a lot of folks. >> i did not notice any irregular breathing patterns of the vice president. i thought it was cheap that was analyzed and overanalyzed. >> got him a lot of publicity in the days that followed. >> what you could see in the press he was honestly appalled to be standing on stage with...
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the only thing he didn't do that he could have done was a george h.w. bush, what time is it, it's time for me to go home, reference to the debate in 1992. however you measure these things, whether winning it means anything or not, chris christie may have been on to something. this might change the vector ever so much, this might change the momentum a little bit a months before election day. >> bret: clearly kirsten in that spin room, the dynamic was stark. i mean, there were only four obama folks with signs and they were not telling a good story and there were 12 or 14 romney surrogates who were telling a big story in that spin room. i want to play what david axelrod said on msnbc this morning and another democrat reacting to it. >> the president's never satisfied with his performance. he's always challenging himself and he will this. he'll review it and if he wants to make some changes in the next debate, he'll do so. what he was satisfied with is that he went and he told the american people the truth and i think he's fairly well convinced that governo
the only thing he didn't do that he could have done was a george h.w. bush, what time is it, it's time for me to go home, reference to the debate in 1992. however you measure these things, whether winning it means anything or not, chris christie may have been on to something. this might change the vector ever so much, this might change the momentum a little bit a months before election day. >> bret: clearly kirsten in that spin room, the dynamic was stark. i mean, there were only four...
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back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. now, in 2000 al gore said don't believe the polls. polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari fleischer joins us. he's an occasional unpaid communications advisor for the romney campaign. also pollster 2012 cornell belcher and our own john king. so, ari, i do not hear republicans complaining, you know, a few months ago when mitt romney seemed up in these polls. >> well, anderson, here's what i think you have to do, and i don't think it's conspiracy, but i think you have to apply a commonsense test. here's what we know. the last time there was a major election in 2012, we had an exit poll in the state of wisconsin that was wrong. it showed the race was going to be n
back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. now, in 2000 al gore said don't believe the polls. polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari...
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bush. >> a compassionate conservative like george w. bush projected himself. >> first of all, the government that george w. bush was already a true conservative. he didn't ve to lock that portion of his base up. wolf, i got to say it. trust me, after playing that sound bite on the health care in massachusetts, you can literally feel erick cringe as mitt romney said that because, again, he says i'm going to rpeal obama care but then he comes back later and says i'm going to implement some pies oe affordable care act. so, dude, yan't have it both ways. and that's romney's problem. he is boxedin beuse he was the one who passed universal health care in achusetts. now we have it nationa ankee erick who desperatelyto s a republican president are going, oh, my god, here he goes again. >> go ahead, erick. >> yep. well, i keep a little airpla he front pocket in front of me for times like this. i remember a lot of republican candidates saying it's going to be hard for him to make the case on obama care. we're finding that wis. i think he's probab
bush. >> a compassionate conservative like george w. bush projected himself. >> first of all, the government that george w. bush was already a true conservative. he didn't ve to lock that portion of his base up. wolf, i got to say it. trust me, after playing that sound bite on the health care in massachusetts, you can literally feel erick cringe as mitt romney said that because, again, he says i'm going to rpeal obama care but then he comes back later and says i'm going to implement...
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bush, and that was a pretty low standard. >> bill: what do you say, colonel hunt? >> i think the specificity of the policy when you look at libya in which we wanted a lower american profile with the weakest profile we've had security since 1979 first ambassador we had killed failed. in afghanistan issues we have people training, killing us. that is not -- and the surge was supposed to crush the taliban. the commander on the ground reports says the taliban is back. he talked about al-qaeda. >> bill: the taliban really we want away. let's look at afghanistan and iran in particular and then libya at the end of the discussion. in afghanistan, you have a lot of friendly so-called friendly, but it's really taliban fanatics infiltrating because as one of the soldiers told me last week, you can buy afghan army uniforms at any marketplace in afghanistan. they're around. so if you want to dress up like an afghany soldier and you're a taliban or al-qaeda terrorist, you can do that and walk in and blow yourself up or shoot them dead. i don't know any army that could stop that,
bush, and that was a pretty low standard. >> bill: what do you say, colonel hunt? >> i think the specificity of the policy when you look at libya in which we wanted a lower american profile with the weakest profile we've had security since 1979 first ambassador we had killed failed. in afghanistan issues we have people training, killing us. that is not -- and the surge was supposed to crush the taliban. the commander on the ground reports says the taliban is back. he talked about...
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kennedy, and in 2000 when gore was condescending toward george w. bush. the point is, more than zingers, what seems to affect the outcome is your general likability. how you come across. last point, carol, i saw newt gingrich give advice to mitt romney. he said that these debates. his expert told him it's 85% visual, how you look, 10% how you say something, your tone, and 5%, only 5% what you actually say. that would certainly reinforce this likability prism. >> well, that 5%'s kind of depressing. >> it is. >> well, let me ask you this about likability. remember in 2008, obama had a problem with likability and he's turned that around. he's now the more likable candidate. there is a danger to him to appear unlikable in this debate if he gets too snippy or too condescending or too professorial. >> absolutely because he's coming from a position of authority or power. everyone expects him to win this debate, everyone, apparently except for governor chris christie. so he will have -- there is a danger of him coming in to this thing perhaps sounding overconfide
kennedy, and in 2000 when gore was condescending toward george w. bush. the point is, more than zingers, what seems to affect the outcome is your general likability. how you come across. last point, carol, i saw newt gingrich give advice to mitt romney. he said that these debates. his expert told him it's 85% visual, how you look, 10% how you say something, your tone, and 5%, only 5% what you actually say. that would certainly reinforce this likability prism. >> well, that 5%'s kind of...
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bush's time. and most people think back to the clinton era as being a better period of time as the bush era. so barack obama's winning that debate by proxy because he's associated himself with the policies of bill clinton and with the person of bill clinton. >> i think we've got to start thinking for real about the probability of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in france. >> he could run in france because he was born in louisiana. >> that's a true statement. >> ireland's a better fit for him, though, i think. >> although they love him in france. he's a lover. >> we'll move past that. joe, you're just joining us. i want to play a clip for you that we played last hour. mitt romney talking to nbc news yesterday. and now bringing up the massachusetts health care law he championed and helped pass as support for his campaign. >> throughout this campaign as well, we've talked about my reco
bush's time. and most people think back to the clinton era as being a better period of time as the bush era. so barack obama's winning that debate by proxy because he's associated himself with the policies of bill clinton and with the person of bill clinton. >> i think we've got to start thinking for real about the probability of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in...